[blochchain in SEA] Blockchain Beyond Blocks
Interview, Blockchain
262days ago
2016

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Time:11/29  19:00

Wechat group: BlockChain-in-SEA

Guest: Gabriel Yang, COO, Beyond Blocks

Host: Andy Zheng, CEO, Beecast


Dialogue

Andy Zheng: Good evening, everyone! I am Beecast CEO Andy Zheng.

Welcome to the leading blockchain community media [Beecast] and join us with 5000+ communities & 1000000+ Beecasters in [Blockchain in SEA] to discuss blockchain technology and industry development.

This the Phase 4, Topic: Blockchain Beyond Blocks.

Guest: Gabriel Yang.

Gabriel Yang, COO of Beyond Blocks. Beyond Blocks is the industry-leading platform that brings the brightest minds in the blockchain space together to collectively share ideas and knowledge for the betterment of the industry. It is a centralized platform for a decentralized industry, built on a common objective that gathers a variety of minds from every part of the spectrum; investors, startups, developers, corporates, and the list goes on.

The key focus of the platform is to move the industry forward, to showcase the opportunities in Asia, to highlight why it’s an exciting time to be part of it, and to uncover how the blockchain applies to the real world now and in the future. By bringing together the top thought-leaders and pioneers of the industry, Beyond Blocks is creating an ecosystem for all blockchain enthusiasts to learn, network, and thrive together.

 

Andy Zheng: Mr. Yang, you can briefly introduce yourself and your experience, why did you go into the blockchain industry? What have you learned from this process?

Gabriel Yang: We got into the industry, like most of us - purely by chance. We actually used to run a marketing agency out of Bangkok years ago and a few things happened.

1. we used crypto to pay our developers from eastern / central europe. so just by chance on that, had a good eye on the rise of btc

2. alot of our friends started getting involved in projects and asked us for marketing help

3. we were looking for a platform (event) to showcase our peers but couldn't find one, so ran the first conference last year Dec in Bangkok as an experiment. so you can say we kind of stumbled on the opportunity

Me personally? Born and raised in Singapore, now split my time between SG and BKK - sometimes Japan and Korea (Where our other events are)

Been doing events since 12 - 13 years ago in agency, then moved into event organizing & media in the tech startup space. Used to be part of Echelon, Tech in Asia and Innovfest unbound before starting Beyond Blocks. 

To follow up on Beyond Blocks too, we also couldn't find a good platform which we can gain knowledge from or connect with - so that's an extra motivation that got us to start BB. 

Andy Zheng:Sometimes, the opportunity is for those who are prepared,you are well prepared,so Beyond Blocks is so successful

Gabriel Yang: haha... that's too kind, I wouldn't go so far as to say we are successful yet, but we do our best to build a quality platform that provides value. still a long way to go before saying its a qualified success.

 

Andy Zheng: Could you describe what Beyond Blocks is doing right now? what is the team behind Beyond Blocks? How is the specific business carried out?

Gabriel Yang: Beyond Blocks right now will take a break ( haha...) and let the team enjoy some well deserved rest. we will also be analysing feedback and the data gathered

b) The team behind Beyond Blocks is made up of people coming from all parts of the world, with extensive backgrounds in business development, marketing, and event management.

c) to answer about BB specifically, we are mainly a conference organizer that does conferences and blockchain weeks around Asia. Bangkok, Seoul and Tokyo currently. We might have some new stuff for 2019, plans are being made at the moment . 

 

Andy Zheng: Everything needs to be repeated & reanalyzed to achieve the best results in the future. Beyond Blocks will be better.

Gabriel Yang: We certainly hope so! Absolutely, we try to always improve and take nothing for granted. The industry also moves very fast, so we need to evolve accordingly too.

 

Andy Zheng: Does the name Beyond Blocks have any special meaning? What is Beyond Blocks's vision for the future?

Gabriel Yang: We were originally called Blockchain world conferences, it sounded scammy and i didn't like it so we changed it. Beyond Blocks means to always look beyond the current state of the industry. talking about the trends of today, with one eye on the future. 

Our vision has always to be an enabler and a platform. to be the best place to learn and connect in the industry. Now or the future, that will not change. The dream is to be the best in Asia in that aspect.

Andy Zheng: To understand the dynamics of the industry, we need to be familiar with every field in the industry.

Gabriel Yang: Indeed! that's the biggest challenge we have day to day so as to remain relevant.

 

Andy Zheng: The quality of blockchain projects in the current market is uneven. What do you think are the characteristics of a good project? What do you think of the status quo and future of blockchain technology throughout Southeast Asia and even around the world?

Gabriel Yang: a) I think a good project is similar to a tech startup. good founders with integrity, real understanding of decentralization and potential market fit. don't "blockchain" something for the sake of it.

b) I think right now there is a growing interest from institutional investors and corporates. also with upcoming regulatory framework due to come in 3-6months, things do look positive. where does mass adoption happen will largely depend on that. 

c) for SEA, I'm pro mobile-first. Outside of SG and maybe MY, alot of people's first interaction with the internet came via mobile.

d) that said, given that SEA is made up of growing economies, there is indeed a lot of potential to harness what blockchain as a technology can provide. Especially when it comes to banking the unbanked, social services, identity verifcation and (maybe) supply chain.

Andy Zheng:  However, many companies still do it for the sake of doing it, I think that not any industry can be combined with blockchain.

Gabriel Yang: many corporates also started building website and apps for the sake of it 7 - 8 years ago. but that did help us to get to where we are today . 

Andy Zheng: So, what you mean is that the Internet in Southeast Asia is still not developed enough, or mobile.

Gabriel Yang: I think it is developed and has come a long way. look at mobile and internet penetration rates - its grown very very quickly over the last half a decade. however use cases are very different and standard of living plays a part

Andy Zheng: Yes, I feel that Thailand’s network speed is faster than many places in China"

Gabriel Yang: In Bangkok yes, not whole of Thailand.

Andy Zheng: Blockchain should also take more time in SEA

Gabriel Yang: All technology in SEA takes time.

1. it sees what happens in the west first. 

2. then it needs to be localized. 

SEA is not a "country" it is an area made up of like 13 countries, 13 diff languages and 13 diff cultures. so to generalize it is a challenge. 

Andy Zheng: So my team and I need to fly to many places in SEA, just because we want to do something in SEA

Gabriel Yang: Of course. that is why sometimes expansion means taking things 1 market at a time.

 

Andy Zheng: As the organizer of the summit of people in various fields in the blockchain industry, based on your personal experience, how do you evaluate the current ecology of the blockchain industry in Southeast Asia and the world?

Gabriel Yang: First and foremost, i think its tough to compare SEA to the rest of the world. because that would mean SEA vs USA vs India vs China etc.

That said, i think things are improving. you see many startups exploring blockchain, you see growing interest from innovation departments in corporates (banks). law firms and audit firms (the big 4) are also getting involved in structuring STOs etc.

retail investor interest and otc services are growing in indo and vietnam - though i think the current market does damper spirits a bit. however i see more professional interest in blockchain as a technology vs crypto for sure in the last 6 months.

 

Andy Zheng: At present, people have a lot of hot talk about the dramatic changes in the digital currency market and STO , what‘s your understanding of the digital currency market upheaval? How has your personal business been affected by this change? What do you know about the global development of STO?

Gabriel Yang: A) STO is a hot topic because ICOs are dying or dead. everyone is looking for alternative fund raising ways. in fact, you might notice a lot of funds being setup in HK or SG because of that. people are waiting to take advantage of the STO wave - if it happens

B) but STOs aren't easy. so much pain so much paperwork also so much regulation chatter. That said, its definitely better than ICOs as you aren't just investing in "air".

(not a fan of ICOs in general, I'm ok with the concpet do not agree with the way it's done. lack of legal fallback protecting the retail investor. )

C) global development of STO is a US govt / SEC question hahha.. everyone is waiting for them to make the first move. 

D) STO changes the narrative of the content we provide at Beyond Blocks. 

also, why do you need 100 million dollars to build a product from a white paper? we aren't building SpaceX.

Andy ZhengIn the afternoon, I talked to STO about my friends. We are preparing to set up an international STO research institute to attract companies from all over the world to participate.

Gabriel Yang: looking forward to see how that goes!

Andy ZhengSTO is difficult because of its securities nature, of course, it must be regulated by governments.」

Gabriel Yang: yes exactly.

Andy ZhengSupervision is sure to be a good thing.

for retail investors, there is investment guarantee.

Whether STO can come out is still in the discussion stage, and it needs coordination from the fund to the project side to the government.

There are already several companies in mainland China doing research STO, but staying in the popularity and training of STO , it is not very deep.

Gabriel Yang: I think it will come out sooner or later. but the success depends very much on the framework of regulations, quality of project to back it.

STO needs time, 2 years ago, did any of us know how to structure an ICO or 10 years ago did anyone know how to structure a VC investment? it will come given the right education. 

the fact that it is being researched, funds being setup in anticipation, law firms looking into it etc... shows it will grow sooner rather than later

also, all these projects wanting to do an ICO, they have no choice but to explore STOs now, all thse will help .

Andy ZhengOK, if opportunity will, we hope to cooperate  with Beyong blocks in depth about STO.

 

Andy Zheng: For the global blockchain industry and economy to grow better and faster,what suggestions do you have for each areas of the blockchain industry? Such as project, exchange, capital, media, etc.

Gabriel Yang: 1. projects - lesser BS. more focus on building a business;

2. exchanges - to be regulated and more secure;

3. capital - better deployment of capital and more sensible investment;

4. media - more legit media, less pay to post. honest research and real journalism;

5. For all the 4 pointers above to work better together.

 

Andy Zheng:As a senior preacher in the blockchain field, you may have come into contact with a lot of people in the industry. Are there anyone you admire, and why? Beecast currently covers 250 cities in 15 countries, 5,000 community nodes, 1 million users , and hope to invite more big names to [Blockchain in SEA] to share the blockchain, promoting the development of the industry. If Mr. Yang introduces one or two guests to do interview, who would you recommend to Beecast to share?

Gabriel Yang: I wouldn’t say i admire but respect what some folks are doing. Justin from cumberland, ding and jon from ledger, the origin guys so many to name. Folks like TLDR who have also supported us from the start. Gigi Levy weiss is someone i really like to. Super super smart.

I think for Beecast, it would really depend on the theme... based on that, happy to make recommendations.


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[blochchain in SEA] 区块链不仅仅是区块链

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对话时间:2018 年 11月 29日  19:00

微信社群:BlockChain-in-SEA

对话嘉宾:

杨克勇

Beyond Blocks COO

郑西平

东南亚Beecast CEO

 

郑西平:各位Beecaster,大家晚上好!我是东南亚Beecast CEO郑西平。

欢迎大家来到领先的区块链社群媒体【Beecast】,与5000+社群1000000+Beecasters一起参与【Blockchain in SEA】节目,探讨区块链技术与行业发展。本期是Beecast【Blockchain in SEA】第4期,主题:区块链不仅仅是区块链。

嘉宾:杨克勇。

杨克勇,Beyond Blocks COO。Beyond Blocks是一个将区块链行业中最聪明的头脑聚集在一起的行业领先平台,是服务于去中心化产业的中心化平台,汇集来自各领域的思想,包括投资者、初创企业、开发者、公司等。该平台致力于推动行业向前发展,展示亚洲的机遇以及参与其中的价值,并揭示区块链应用程序是如何应用于现在和将来的现实世界。通过聚集业界的顶尖思想领袖和先驱,Beyond Blocks正在创造一个生态系统,让所有的区块链爱好者一起学习,建立网络,共同繁荣。

 

郑西平: 您可以向大家简单介绍一下自己以及您的从业经历,当初为什么投入到区块链行业之中?在这个过程中有哪些收获?

杨克勇: 和大多数人一样,我们进入这个行业完全是偶然的。实际上,几年前我们在曼谷经营了一家营销机构,发生了一些事情。

1. 我们用加密货币支付给来自东欧/中欧的开发商。所以在这件事上,对btc的崛起有一个很好的观察。

2. 我们的许多朋友开始参与项目,并向我们寻求营销方面的帮助。

3. 我们正在寻找一个平台(活动)来展示我们的同僚,但却找不到,所以去年12月在曼谷举办了第一次会议作为一项实验。所以你可以说我们偶然发现了机会。

至于我个人,我出生和成长于新加坡,现在我的时间分配给新加坡和曼谷,有时是日本和韩国(在那里举办我们的其他活动)。

从12-13年前在机构开始从事活动举办,然后在科技创业领域进入大型活动组织和媒体领域。在运营Beyond Blocks之前,我曾任职Echelon, Tech in Asia 以及Innovfest unbound。

同时,我们也找不到一个好的平台可以从中获得知识或人脉,所以这是一个额外的动机,使得我们开始创办Beyond Blocks。

郑西平:有时候,机会是留给有准备的人,你做了充分准备的所以Beyond Blocks才能如此的成功.

杨克勇: 哈哈,过奖了,我不会说我们已经成功了,但我们尽力建立一个提供价值的高质量平台,在可以说它是货真价实的成功之前,还有很长的路要走。

 

郑西平: 请您介绍一下Beyond Blocks目前在做的事情,Beyond Blocks背后是一个怎样的团队?具体业务是如何开展的?

杨克勇: 1.Beyond Blocks现在就在休假(哈哈),让团队享受一些应得的休息。我们还将分析反馈和收集的数据。

2.幕后团队由来自世界各地的人员组成,他们在业务开发、市场营销和事件管理方面有着广泛的背景。

3.具体地回答Beyond Blocks的问题,我们主要是一个会议组织者,在亚洲各地举办会议和区块链周,目前主要在曼谷、首尔和东京。2019年我们可能有一些新的动作,目前正在制定计划。

郑西平: 每件事都需要复盘和分析,才能在未来取得最好的结果。Beyond Blocks会发展的更好。

杨克勇: 是的,我们总是在努力提高,没有什么是理所当然的。该行业的发展也非常迅速。所以我们也需要相应的进化。

 

郑西平: Beyond Blocks这个名字有什么特殊寓意吗?未来,Beyond Blocks有怎样的发展愿景?

杨克勇: 我们最初被称为Blockchain world conferences(区块链世界大会),听起来很奇怪,我不喜欢它,所以后来改了。Beyond Blocks(超越区块)意味着永远超越行业现状,谈论当今趋势,同时瞭望未来。

我们的愿景始终是做一个促进者和一个平台,成为行业中学习和沟通的最佳场所,无论是现在还是未来,这都不会改变。我们的梦想是在这一领域成为亚洲最好的。

郑西平:要了解这个行业的动态,我们需要熟悉这个行业的每一个领域。

杨克勇: 确实!这是我们每天面临的最大挑战,这样才能保持与行业的紧密相关。

 

郑西平:当前市场中出现的区块链项目质量参差不齐,您认为一个好项目的特征是什么?您怎么看待整个东南亚乃至全球区块链技术的发展现状以及未来?

杨克勇: 1.我认为一个好的项目类似于一家科技创业公司,好的正直的创始人,真正了解去中心化和潜在的市场空间,不要为了区块链而区块链。

2.我认为目前机构投资者和公司对此越来越感兴趣。此外,随着即将到来的监管框架将在3-6个月内出台,事情看起来确实是积极的,大规模应用的发生在很大程度上取决于这一点。

3.对于东南亚,我支持“移动”优先。新加坡之外,也许还有马来西亚,许多人与互联网的第一次互动都是通过移动进行的。

4.尽管如此,考虑到东南亚是由不断增长的经济体组成的,因此利用区块链作为一种技术来提供,确实有很大的潜力。尤其是在银行业务、社会服务、身份验证和供应链(可能)等方面。

郑西平:不过,很多公司仍是为了做而做,我认为现在没有一个行业可以与区块链相结合。

杨克勇: 许多公司也在7-8年前开始为其建立网站和应用程序。但这确实帮助我们实现了今天的目标。

郑西平:所以,你的意思是,东南亚的互联网还不够发达。

杨克勇: 我认为它已经发展了,而且已经走了很长的路。看看移动网络和互联网的普及率吧——在过去的五年里增长很快。应用案例不同,但都在在人们生活中起着重要的作用。

郑西平:是的,我觉得泰国的网络速度比中国的许多地方都快

杨克勇: 在曼谷是,不是整个泰国。

郑西平:区块链在东南亚的发展也需要更多的时间。

杨克勇: 东南亚的所有技术都需要时间。

1. 它首先看到的是西方发生的事情;

2. 然后它还需要本地化。

东南亚不是一个“国家”,它是由13个国家、13种不同语言和13种不同文化组成的地区。因此,推广它是一项挑战。

郑西平:所以我和我的团队需要飞到东南亚的许多地方,就因为我们想在东南亚做点什么。

杨克勇: 当然了!这就是为什么有时扩张意味着一次占领一个市场。

 

郑西平 : 作为区块链行业内各领域人士峰会的组织者,凭借您的个人经验,您对于目前的东南亚以及全球区块链行业生态有怎样的评价?

杨克勇: 首先,我认为要将东南亚与世界其他地区相比较是很困难的。因为这意味着东南亚要和美国、印度、中国比较。

我认为情况正在改善,我们看到许多初创公司在探索区块链,公司(银行)进行业务创新的兴趣越来越大,律师事务所和审计事务所(四大)也参与了STO的构建等等。

印度和越南的散户投资者的兴趣以及场外交易服务都在增长,尽管我认为当前的市场确实有点让人沮丧。不过,在过去的6个月里,我看到更多的专业人士对区块链的技术感兴趣,而不是对加密货币。

 

郑西平 : 目前,人们对于数字货币行情的戏剧性变化以及STO的热议有很多,您对于数字货币行情剧变有怎样的认知?您个人公司业务的开展受到这一变化怎样的影响?您所了解的STO在全球范围内的发展情况如何?

杨克勇: 1.STO是一个热门话题,因为ICO正面临死亡或已经死亡。每个人都在寻找另一种筹资方式。事实上,你可能会注意到很多基金都是在香港或新加坡设立的。人们都在等待利用STO浪潮的优势,如果它可行的话。

2.但STO们并不容易,有这么多的痛苦,这么多的文书工作,还有那么多关于的监管闲聊。尽管如此,肯定比ICO好,因为你不只是投资于“空气”。

(一般情况下,我不喜欢ICO,我不同意这种做法。它缺乏保护散户投资者的法律依据。)

3.STO的全球发展是美国政府/证券交易委员会的一个问题。每个人都在等着他们做第一步。

4.STO改变了我们在 Beyond Blocks的工作中提供的相关内容。

另外,为什么你需要1亿美元才能从一张白皮书中生产出一种产品呢?我们不是在建造Space X。

(*Space X 是一家太空探索科技公司,創始人是特斯拉電動車公司的執行長Elon Musk)

郑西平:今天下午,我和一位朋友谈了谈STO。我们正在准备建立一个国际STO研究机构,以吸引来自世界各地的公司参与。

杨克勇: 期待看到它的进展!

郑西平STO比较困难,是因为它的证券性质,当然,它必须由政府监管。

杨克勇: 确实是。

郑西平:监督当然是一件好事对于散户投资者来说有投资保障STO能否推出还处于讨论阶段,需要从资金到项目方到政府的协调。中国大陆已有数家公司在做STO的研究,但在STO的普及和培训上,还不是很深入。

杨克勇: 我想它迟早会出来的,但是成功在很大程度上取决于法规的框架,项目的质量来支持。STO需要时间,2年前,我们中的任何一个人知道如何构造一个ICO吗?或者10年前,有人知道如何构造一个VC投资吗?如果给予正确的教育的话,STO是会发展成形的。事实是,它正在被律师事务所等机构进行研究,资金正在准备,这表明它将增长得更快,而不是更晚。此外,所有这些项目都想做一个ICO,但他们没有选择,现在只能探索STO。所有这些都是有帮助的。

郑西平:好的,如果机会,我们希望与Beyong blocks就STO问题进行深入的合作。

 

郑西平 : 为了整个全球区块链行业及经济能够更好更快地发展,您对于区块链行业生态各个细分领域有怎样的建议?例如项目、交易所、资本、媒体等。

杨克勇: 1.项目-少说废话,更多地关注于业务的建设。

2.交易所-受管制、更安全。

3.资本-更好地配置资本,更合理的投资。

4.媒体-更多的正统媒体,减少宣传费用,诚信调查,真实报道。

5.以上4方面更好地协同工作。

 

郑西平:杨先生作为资深的区块链领域布道者,应该接触过很多行业内人士,其中是否有您欣赏和佩服的从业者,为什么?Beecast目前覆盖15个国家250个城市、5000个社群节点、用户100万+,希望通过[Blockchain in SEA]邀请更多的大咖来社群分享区块链,以推动整个行业进一步的发展,如果杨先生引荐一到两位嘉宾,您会引荐谁来做客Beecast进行分享?

杨克勇: 我不会说我钦佩谁,但我尊重一些伙伴正在做的事情。来自坎伯兰的 Justin和来自ledger的 jon等等。像TLDR这样的伙伴从一开始就支持我们。Gigi Levy weiss是我非常喜欢的人,超级聪明。

我想对于Beecast采访来说,选择哪位嘉宾取决于主题,所以我很高兴能够给出建议。


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